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Something different in this lockdown Less connection Less communication More hope l think Sad still little from faith communities More poverty More need Society feels inactive Lot more silence

3:58 PM · Nov 13, 2020·

Sitting in the park .....Thinking.........in the long now

Find myself thinking lot about the past...know like you made mistakes..don't like regret because little one can do...like favourites in music l change today it's Fleetwood Mac, tomorrow may be Jazzie..

But need to stop Middling....need communicate with you want discourse..noise.. people.

Perhaps it's being in this long now...or maybe it's age...

Above nice place like to sit

Watch sea roll

Seasons change

Weather alters

People they don't leave memories stay...feels fresh

Faces don't alter if don't see them

Some not in this world anymore

Words remain even if change internally something l did not mean to say recall 

Is it this ...long nothingness of now?

Not too Dum Dum

 Not supposed to drive

Got to be essential

Have to obey.....been seen to obey

Must not do this must wear a mask

Not supposed to be non profit

Got to be supportive

Should not ask too many questions

Nor hold different views

Can't say couleered or be offended

She can be a he simply if she says she a he

All going one way......but maybe the old way is the better way

Child sexual Survivors call for the leader to resign..continued fight expose this,healing sought for what they’ve experienced.

Child sexual abuse and rape in the Catholic church was covered up. 

Survivors call for the leader to resign but he refuses. 

My thoughts are with all survivors for their continued fight to expose this and for what they’ve experienced.

Sammy Woodhouse ........who exposed child sex abuse scandals in Rotherham.

The lady correct.

Along with last months sex abuse scandals in COE ,and outbursts by televangelists,

Christainty is on 'trail' and most uncomfortable situation has arrived,coming to hold us accountable.

When Church is attacked (internal abusive truthful actions)...we must grieve,

We are the body of the servent King he grieves...how did it come to this?

When will Church listen there is an issue of power being played!

But do not want to focus on that.

It's first the hurt of those who were abused.

They must first be addressed,pain must be healed

Repentance must follow.

Efforts to better engage with ..'Youth workers '..those who shown the light brightly.

Its not enough to hear power brokers in Servent Kings Church, retreat into some kind of unholy huddle and come up with excuses.

It's about power ...abuse of power t...to turn over such people

 and bleach them away 

Other ways it will emerge again.

Jesus weeps.....

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland laughs at the media for declaring that Joe Biden has won the election and will become president.

Televangelist Kenneth Copeland laughs at the media for declaring that Joe Biden has won the election and will become president.

Ha ha cry cry cry as image of faith is damaged

When he desires Spirtual gift from God may he choose ...to be Kind!

This was on BBC Radio 2 earlier today it made me sad.

Because many will accept that this how Christians followers of Jesus behave.

How we act in defeat!

How we debate!

How foolish he and his Church his followers act.

By the way l never liked Trump and feel comfortable as English guy in northern UK town

it not my country nor my politics...but sad to witness the actions of faith leaders in USA.

Hurts the narrative of God of Love

Hurts Image of loving Father!

Does nothing for the followers of servent King.

In lockdown if you want...can do this

We can walk

We can reflect

Pray that your way....it's mine

Be kind

Ignore falseness

Switch off TV

Can read more

Listen to music

Appreciate what not possible at present

Look forward... look back

Watch really old movie

Can communicate on phone or by thingie miygies

 smile

Just be you

Think about God....new music...old friends...new ventures

Lots still do.........if you want....

 

This is changing period weather ways

There is a creators evidence as we enter second lockdown it visible beautiful 

I feel lucky even  though sleep amiss at present

So for some in mist

In the cold

In the danger

They go to work

Have they time for deep theological arguments

Still

They go to dangerous work setting

Gotta ask...."How you doing"?

 

Walks talks reflecting and hope

"I am not sure that I want to build a hut. For it will mean putting walls and a roof between me and the rocks and the sky. Who wants that on an afternoon in autumn when there is still a bit of heat in the sun and the wind is warm and caressing?" ~C.R.Milne 

There is so much in these words that are wise...

Had ace walk this day along muddy haven near the Humber 

Witnessed peregrine falcon feathers coulered like blue armour

Yellow legs of sparrow hawk on a hedge eating carrion

The huge honey Buzzerd as l visited the food bank near Aldbrough

Further saw humans interacting in Church yard ...conversations...laughter...politics...sharing concern and time together.

Life

Life

Life thankful yes strain around in life ...but hope is present 

I believe in prayer. But I’ve never been into the “name-it-and-claim-it” prosperity gospel... I also don’t think that it works in a Presidential election.

There is a connect between a war Lord God 

People whose ministry is power related

Know there is power of the spirit

Power comes with faith

Values beliefs ethics are power

But there is something about calling God to act just for you and prove his worth for you 

Hurts to see some Christian antics connected to power of TRUMP

This is power of prosperity war like God

Less like God of the cross...God of LOVE

yeah struggles a plenty in my writings but hope can get jest of what l am saying...

I believe in prayer.

But I’ve never been into the “name-it-and-claim-it” prosperity gospel... I also don’t think that it works in a Presidential election.

Warring God bit more pt2

Struggle with aspects of old order

See stories want to turn away from.

Old Testament clearly got Gods hand but it got more of his people hand as they add bits to the narrative. 

David comes across at times as awful leader

Well... now wonder asking have we got leaders like that at present?

Hitler , Stalin, and others in not too distant past had leadership with power.

America today with TRUMP 

There a story of top power whose narrative to the story is childlike yet many follow, further act upon their words.

Lack of wisdom.

Story distorted.

We are told people are hurt. .. .damage is done

The narrative is not what l nor you would write

but it remains had still written.

Injustice and poverty in UK we know what narrative should be ...but our history is writing still about neglect, plus lack of care for most vulnerable.

Old order is alive in our present.

God has got a story of what should be....but his people's hand is writing not what should be...but stories of cruelty, injustice, lack of love...

There is a story we are part of...we belong too.

THE NEIGHBOURHOOD BULLY

 Deuteronomy 2:34 

And we captured all his cities at that time and devoted to destruction every city, men, women, and children. We left no survivors.

They say. That most of this was boasting like their enemies they prone to boast about victories.

Did God say "...let my people go...."then they added threats ..snake tricks. Death came 

God said …let my people go...

it strange a slave people freed became such oppressors...it happens 

Neighbour hood bullies ..like those sang about by `Dylan` on Album `infidel's...`

HE`s... THE NEIGHBOUR HOOD BULLIED...Israel 

 

When sports teams use the language of “totally slaughtering” ..We killed them..it was a riot...taking about `Others `..their opponents. The land has “rest from war” (Joshua 21:44), later we read Joshua says nations still remain in Israel’s midst (23:12); Judges 1-2 regularly repeats “they could not drive them out.”

Its the narrative of the moment...it brings into question big issues around God of love.

YET OFTEN ITS REPEATED...

Neighborhood Bully Bob Dylan

Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man
His enemies say he's on their land
They got him outnumbered about a million to one
He got no place to escape to, no place to run
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully he just lives to survive
He's criticized and condemned for being alive
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in
He's the neighborhood bully.

The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land
He's wandered the earth an exiled man
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn
He's always on trial for just being born
He's the neighborhood bully.

A warring God

Like many struggle with wars in old order...known to us as Old Testament 

Stories ..tales ...a narrative of genocide, violence..abuse of women..people taken into slavery.

Wars against peaceful people whose land been invaded by Gods chosen people.

Not inspired

Cover your eyes stories

Hide away stories

Wrestle with meaning stories

Can they be true stories

What am l part of stories

Like you we need to discover the real truth of these stories and question

Ask tough questions

Try to wrestle with issues and dilemmas they raise up.

That the Church l feel pastoral able to belong too

One that does not simply accept because it written down but will ask can this be a real account?

What's changed in us or are we the same people of God who carry out the same 

...because we got God on our side people...

Answers to follow?

Live on the coast near North sea

Love to see the sun rise get ready for the day.its beginning wind blows noise arrives

as gulls scream its life early morning on the front...asking me how am l?

 

Eroded but can be built up.....

Waiting it hard isn't it.....

Living in the ...long now...moments of nothingness

Trying to make plans to get away 

But appears impossible

Still here in nothingness of now

Process deeper but not able to share to much face to face.

Practice new ways of communication but can not beat one to one ...face to face

Lot of stuff l hear is around what possession people cannot get

But greatest loss is in our efforts to remain personally connected

It all been eroded for the present.

But we can begin to rebuild in our hearts,practice thru prayer thinking of each other's and the bigger community......even this can be achieved in ...the long now of this nothingness.  

4U a message.

 Feel like quitting

well ...backs against the ropes

Uncertain even of next hours 

Taking the hits.

Unable to fight back.

Think straight.

All your training for this moment feels irrelevant...

Belief in you.

Esteem. 

Confidence.

Do you feel beaten.

DON`T GIVE UP..........`You are not alone,` time for cliches this is one of those times....best advice l can offer...

It will Pass......gonna be honest with you putting this at this moment.

When that does not feel like good advice.

But its true.

DON`T GIVE UP...... 

DO you ever wonder if there is more...not just in this Long Now..but AHEAD

One Definition of on the word horizon : coming in the near future ...example could be..

Scientists believe that a major breakthrough is on the horizon.

l like you wonder if there is more

its not just this time.

it sometimes about what limits us...but it very much about what you see.

I have concluded that living in a flat area affects myself spiritually.

territoriality l have heard it from some as far back as `83` that spiritual forces prevented us seeing bigger

limited by the view from culture of our environment.

witness that in this time...we see no way out of this place

this moment

these events

not connecting so we not expressing differ-ant views

lack of community affecting how we see the bigger picture

it must be paling into other powers hands

we are being managed

Need to see bigger 

must look forward

got to stop seeing this as just where we will be

whats your plans

Where are you going 

whats on the horizon for you and l

 

              Whats on the horizon for you and l

Song crawls into our hearts and minds powerful lyrical journey is taking place

Same old memories 

In that place

Walking smells the same....even laughter in her eyes .

Emotions get stirred up...

I am into lyrics of songs they call me first ...like to hear story's narratives..get caught up

Years later still caught up.

That us humans a song does that piece of music.

Such a gift

Yes heart flutters stirs ..memories roll and then back even just for few moments at that moment.

WOW

Song can do that it can inspire...bring into mind someone some place...create a movement

Echo from another place and time to reflect concerns or Challenge views .

Music like the snag says...it was my first love..it will be my last!

About being and belonging to God people.

 We think we can create a fun, stimulating, emotionally satisfying experience In church ...one that feels...feels. Feels...it’s dishonest

In Church, we lie,... lie about who we are and where we’ve been. 

We lie by creating experiences based on popular principles of entertainment. showing and  telling people the pleasure they derive from our experience, not encouraging others to grow in their own.

we lie when we do not credit that feeling experience is not often felt...devalue those wrestling struggling not getting our feeling...

so we allow them to depart...

sometimes people say to me.."oh they weren`t ready...they weren`t dancing..singing...talking..raising hands...

After a while, Others begin to believe the lie themselves. To my shame, seen people oblivious to the fact that become the worst kind of liars. 

Play karaoke new tube Worship song...Expect others to stand and accept this mubo.. jumbo.. babel ..babel..

Instead of disciples, we’ve created a line people following false lead.

By winning them with the experience, we’ve won them to the experience. This is the sample bad worship in the church.

It’s time to be honest with ourselves.

Not about feelings...experiences..Has to be about being and belonging to God`s people.

Preparing to return to a society  be `the different .`

Erosion of worship...

In some places, We have lost sight of what constitutes  worship. Corporate prayer, creeds, confessions, have no place. 

No more gathering, proclaiming, thanksgiving, and sending out. 

Just music, talking, then more music.

Music long way from what l normally listen too...gonna suggest equally long way from what many listen too.

It becomes about me, what I want, if that’s not happening, I’m going to take my guitar and go home. Become like a convener band of what l want..

Scheduled often followed One hour commitment.

Adults go to a “worship service” with commercial music , kinda a self-help, teaching method of sermon.

in not uncommon perhaps not every week Kids go someplace else in the building, where they are overstimulated for Jesus loud music and flashy effects.

We used to go out and formal type of education. Not surprisingly we developed into extra talk shops...after Church fellowship..

After an hour of separation, everyone goes home and gets on with their lives.

worship is not that hour on a Sunday.

Worship is the period of our lives lived Monday to Sunday.

“Signs of autumn - the reddening leaf, the chill in the early-morning air, the misty evenings. The summer has been splendid but it has lasted long enough. This morning I welcomed the chill in the air and viewed the falling leaves with cheerfulness.” ~A.A.Milne

 

Fighting to save coast in our area

                                 It all looks very hard work,  long hours quite a bit of consulting taken place .

                                    Got respect for efforts ,however unsure..... of long time value?

Because l am ignorant, own understanding

Impressive machine's technical details, stuff brought from Norway.

Unloaded to smaller barges.

Placed along cliff face to prevent erosion.

Huge cost, but it's part of our coastline , A soft clay like area.

Hence way it disappears..... highest in Europe,

Among highest in world.

Life disappearing efforts being made to ease situation.

 

We must strive to understand each other better

We should not simply accept arguments like ,those around 'challenge critical race theory'!

This is a deeply regressive ideology. It says all black people are victims

People like me many around myself,well  white people ,are privileged oppressors. 

To oppresse ,treat others harshly and unfairly at the least....it much more but argue that another day....It rehabilitates racial thinking and that’sdangerous.

Unkind to label me, got lot to learn but one thing truly know.

I am white

Working class

Faith in justice of teaching of Jesus.....

Northern

Worked studied hard...

Not never been privileged.

Well honey...l am being good, love to be with you if only l could

"Looking out onto a world that changed so much, Dyson not working...cats gone. Love to drive real fast to that cottage by the sea...yeah still would".

You Know how hard it`s become.....

sometimes l suppose 

We just want to be in pastures

New.

In a place where this has been and gone.

We have to journey through this

Moment.

Another way does not exist.

We hear about songs,

Watch TV

Read a book

People escape to another place

People escape to another time

In our world, one where you and l live well it about getting through.

But hope we must have, suggest that we develop.

Especially when times are difficult, are a challenge, not easy.

That how humanity grow, it the making of you and l

Simple

Simple

To write these words.

                  . . . .You Know how hard it`s become. . . . .

In other news

 It emerged last week that a board game which claims to connect people with the dead was being sold in Poundland. But after both Christians and spiritualists complained, the company has withdrawn the 'Spirit board' from sale. In a statement to Premier Christianity, the supermarket poked fun at the controversy. It said, "We had a message from the spirits to make the handful that were left vanish." But ex-spiritualist Laura Maxwell says the occult is no laughing matter

 

 

 

Sun arises on you

 Let the day begin

Here to the workers in the fields today.

Here to the wall 

That bears their name's.

Here to the lonely everywhere

Let the day begin.

Saturday wisdom.....another nugget.

  Life, is all about ups and downs and its whether you decide to focus on the positives or the negatives which determines if “your glass is half full or half empty.

some people suggest that when you have faith 

its all uphill.....heaven bound....

That not true life even with faith  " is all about ups and downs , its whether you decide to focus on positives or the negatives which determines if  glass is half full or half empty."

Strange ways indeed

 Since covid we are breaking apart in communities.

 Were no longer socially mobile.

Stranger..... people l known ,enjoying not going out this feels weird.

Unsure how change back can flow.

Guy told me he loving being furlowe,

There no problem for some, but real issue don't get addressed.

The nothingness of now, means we just do a John Lennon, by default, Sitting watching the wheel go round.

Lack of belonging, ask was it the case previous to Present.?

Sorry about Today's podcast l was looking forward but technological issue more on` Spiritofthestreets` inst post/site ...."sorry again text and Email those affected".....saddened.

This C19 is preventing us from belonging...

We are sat watching the wheels go round...l know that feels required at times ..but too much of this nothingness is affecting people in their mental emotional and physical well being.

That sense of being part of something by social media works but its limited, for some this is fine.

But even when IT goes fine we need to be in human contact. 

It simple we need to be with each other.

BREAKING. 2 out of 3 juvenile #GreaterFlamingos which were recently released back into the wild at Għadira Nature Reserve following rehab go missing following break-in. Footprints on islands that are never visited by anyone were observed at the reserve. Police are investigating.

Frecks sake how could anyone ....oh yeah it's MALTA

This gets me so annoyed and feel very sad.

Such a waste of nature

Beautiful bird is killed by Hunters,but wish there was more protection in general for wildlife.

Despite or rather because of being in EU Malta does little.

In regards to nature and wildlife...they are slothish.

Sad sad day for all of us the day Flamingos get killed in Malta.

Chris  Packham well known wildlife expert ""have returned to Malta annually to follow the progress that Bird Life Malta and other organisations are making to bring an end to the abhorrent practice of spring hunting. In 2015, the country held a referendum and the people of Malta really started to openly talk about this issue as an outdated tradition."

l am most frequent traveler to these Islands and love walks views smell sounds of Maltese Islands wildlife and Nature. it deeply concerns me that local persons kill Birds that are so rare and Beautiful.

Again we witness random act of killing...its not should never be normalised nor accepted

In my home town, not where l live,  knife crime as an "act of terror".Father of victim, said young children in Hull are "clearly under siege" from organised gangs moving here from bigger cities.

Is this the world we have created is it one worth fighting for?

Is this the world we created?
What did we do it for
Is this the world we invaded
Against the law
So it seems in the end
Is this what we're all living for today
The world that we created

You know that everyday a helpless child is born
Who needs some loving care inside a happy home
Somewhere a wealthy man is sitting on his throne
Waiting for life to go by

Who was it who said...Imagine ... sang about better place?

Follow teacher ,rabbi called Jesus who preached about different way?

We should all try to be more like the Johns and the Jesus teachers of this world 

PRETTY SOON.

Being offended is good for you.

 Everyone should be willing to subject their views to criticism and even ridicule. The safe space, which shields you from disagreement, Does not excist.

But to go out just to offend, that's not double speech it's not a good place to be.

Critic but try not to offend.

The relationships that challange you,discussion that does not accept myself should make me think differently.

Differant view does not automatically mean change of view.

Unsure what being taught in education at present,but creating a soft underbelly of individuals unable to accept difference.

Another day for modern slavery of platforming speakers .

Enjoy value the debates.

“We measure our friendships by how they show up in bad weather.” - Sir Winston Churchill

In a bid to tighten their grip on any outstanding suspects, police implemented emergency Section 60 stop and search powers which was yesterday extended for another 24-hours to 4 pm on Saturday, while they have also upped regular patrols of the area. A number of police vehicles and officers were still in Peel Street on Friday afternoon, with a cordon still in place.

The chase happened on October 8 at around 9.30pm and was tweeted out by the force who used a "tpac pre-emptive stop" in order to catch the car and then arrested those inside for drugs offences, with a large amount of cash also recovered. Vehicle linked to county lines sighted entering Humberside force area

VALUES ...VIRTUES...WAY TO BEHAVE...PERSON OF BEING...COMMUNITY THAT HAS MEANING...LIFE WORTH LIVING. 

Some things change we have always to make decisions...who informs.? where are our Leaders?

HOW DID WE CREATE COMMUNITY? 

What contribution have you and l presented to each other along those around us.

Hello in there, that deep place you sink.when hide the stuff that,don't want others to know

Hello in there, that deep place you sink when hide the stuff that,don't want others to know !

Bette milder recorded ..."Hello in there". . .

It hit me one Sunday as listened to the radio, as so often happens....

 old trees just grow stronger

 old rivers run wilder.....

<UNSURE THAT TRUE>

Old folk's just get Lonelier....

Song about age...about passing of time...seasons

Regrets are experienced..."we lost a son in the war"...

Then the line that tugs on heart strings....she laments,

"Still don't know what for".

Emotional literacy recounted in lyrics to a song.

Hello in there...in where, that deep place you can sink when hide all the stuff that you don't want others to know about

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spiritualty means sharing vulnerabilties with others.

The sculpture is located near to the Oasis Cafe on Scarborough's North Bay.

There are issue with this staue `around emotional literacy` Fred ... was on of first into BELSEN a concentration camp during 2 WW. he could never share with anyone the sights he witnessed. image is of someone satrring out to sea. Unable to trust ithers with issue he had witnessed and the affects upon his narraitive. Would fred be in better place for sharing? How did his family feel being apart from the narrative he chose not to reveal. He did later towards end of his life. To care for others is we recognise spiritual. To not allow others to share with you on your journey is damaging, allow others into your deep space and the vulnerabilties. Its spirtual to share vulnerabilites We do not have all the skills we may require. knowing that is allowed.

Sometimes we struggle to accept. Differant opinion are vital to our cognitive diversity!

 Sometimes we struggle to accept ..conflicting views. This can make us Anxious. Different opinion are vital to our cognitive diversity.

Who is saying things to you that not heard elsewhere?

In what ways are you better informed around news....
Faith....
Music....
C19.
Why people telling you thier story?
How deep do l listen...
For how long do we reflect.
What shapes our judgements?

My job is Senior youth community worker...special responsibiltie for safe guarding.

But unsure why these positions along with generic Youth children and community development positions are so neglected.

How come rates for pay along with conditions not improved .

Indeed sunk.

It's vocational role, essential.

That word still so overlooked at present.

You and l might forget this important truth.....

You and l are heros

We may not wear a cape...may feel unimportant.

Perhaps feel our life is a mess

But you and l

You and l

We are heros....l don't know your story 

I do not know your struggles

Truth is at present unsure how you are feeling

BUT

This l do know your life is special Unigue and valuable.....

The Lord says you are a hero...that good enough

A Hero is reading this, a life liver ,a person so unigue they perhaps forgotten this truth

You are a hero

The issue with twitter and seeking confirmation via such media...

A certain Baptist minister (who Chalks up lot of books) recently been tweeting a great deal...if  was in a desert this mirage would be fine. But not in such a sand coverage area it does not prove so valuable...but not gonna name names...THESE TWEETS GET CONFIRMED...With such a lot well few tweets endorsing the tale....trouble is you cannot debate in second person even if like me you write in the third person...it leads only to 2 things. Basis in favour those that agree with the persons tweet...confirmed by engaging comments that follow also as we call in the subject among trained in counselling. The strokes .

OH YOU ARE SUCH A SAINT...
THE WORLD`S A BETTER PLACE
CUM ON DUMDUMS....

Those who would engage but don't because this is not the format.
Hence the confirmation basis ...also known as ECHO chamber

One in three working -age families in so-called “red wall” constituencies won by the Tories from Labour at the last election will be £1,000 a year worse off if government plans to cut universal credit benefit rates go ahead

We are temporarily suspending article commenting. 

'Well of course you are' C19 been used for lot of prevention, add free speech to that issue.

Most COVID-19 victims had a pre-existing heart condition called congestive heart failure, which is most common in older people, Charmaine Gauci has said. The Superintendent of Public Health gave a breakdown of some of the health conditions of those who contracted the virus and died. "Most had congestive heart failure, respiratory symptoms and diabetes," she told Times of Malta's weekly Ask Charmaine, in response to a reader's question.

"Greta Thunberg is 17 years old and has autism. You think attacking an autistic kid is satire? You’ve lost the plot Spitting Image..."

Eh....yeah that the whole point surly she screams throw tantrums is angry, awkward, wrong, a fool, and silly little girl..so that why she on Spitting image...

they do not like arguments nor the decisions others follow...

There’s lots of ammunition to throw..but you and l must keep quite.

that whole gambit with wokenisum, that cannot stand the debate nor the dialogue

They can rant at you!

Be angry with us...!

Attack our values ..virtues and delima we face but dammit you cannot retort back..

Sorry.

We are spitting feathers not really we are spitting puppets and we will debate angrily back with you!

The BBC` biased broadcasting cult'..of the left wing is getting attacked'.

ALSO BEEN ASKING WHY DO FISH FINGER PACKETS NEVER CONTAIN 

THUMBS IS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE OR JUST WASTE.